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	<title>Comments on: Breaking down the Google Maps &#8211; Windows Phone issue</title>
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		<title>By: Man and Van London</title>
		<link>http://blog.tomverhoeff.nl/2013/01/05/breaking-down-the-google-maps-windows-phone-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-65960</link>
		<dc:creator>Man and Van London</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 04:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes i agree on the fairness of competition thing seems underhand really]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes i agree on the fairness of competition thing seems underhand really</p>
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		<title>By: Man And Van Hire</title>
		<link>http://blog.tomverhoeff.nl/2013/01/05/breaking-down-the-google-maps-windows-phone-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-65052</link>
		<dc:creator>Man And Van Hire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jun 2013 07:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey great post. I love good and truthful content. Thanks for the information!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey great post. I love good and truthful content. Thanks for the information!</p>
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		<title>By: tablets android</title>
		<link>http://blog.tomverhoeff.nl/2013/01/05/breaking-down-the-google-maps-windows-phone-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-61102</link>
		<dc:creator>tablets android</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 23:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi friends, how is everything, and what you want to say concerning this post, in 
my view its actually amazing in support of me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi friends, how is everything, and what you want to say concerning this post, in<br />
my view its actually amazing in support of me.</p>
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		<title>By: Google Maps, Windows Phone, and an avoidable mess &#124;</title>
		<link>http://blog.tomverhoeff.nl/2013/01/05/breaking-down-the-google-maps-windows-phone-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-54039</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Maps, Windows Phone, and an avoidable mess &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 06:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] was demonstrated in two ways. Tom Verhoeff used the Fiddler proxy server to rewrite the User-Agent of every request made by his phone. He [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was demonstrated in two ways. Tom Verhoeff used the Fiddler proxy server to rewrite the User-Agent of every request made by his phone. He [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Old Click &#187; Google Maps, Windows Phone, and an avoidable mess</title>
		<link>http://blog.tomverhoeff.nl/2013/01/05/breaking-down-the-google-maps-windows-phone-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-54032</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Click &#187; Google Maps, Windows Phone, and an avoidable mess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 02:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] was demonstrated in dual ways. Tom Verhoeff used a Fiddler substitute server to rewrite a User-Agent of each ask done by his phone. He [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was demonstrated in dual ways. Tom Verhoeff used a Fiddler substitute server to rewrite a User-Agent of each ask done by his phone. He [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://blog.tomverhoeff.nl/2013/01/05/breaking-down-the-google-maps-windows-phone-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-53998</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...&quot;but it does not show the cursor&quot;.  

Don&#039;t cursors usually correlate to mice?  Maybe it is just me, but I have never attached a mouse to my phone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8221;but it does not show the cursor&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t cursors usually correlate to mice?  Maybe it is just me, but I have never attached a mouse to my phone.</p>
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		<title>By: Windows Phone users to get their broken Google Maps web experience back &#8211; mwhiffens WordPress</title>
		<link>http://blog.tomverhoeff.nl/2013/01/05/breaking-down-the-google-maps-windows-phone-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-53993</link>
		<dc:creator>Windows Phone users to get their broken Google Maps web experience back &#8211; mwhiffens WordPress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 12:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the world and moved the mountain that is Google, but even a few admitted Windows fans came to&#160;the very same conclusion that it was done because the experience, well, it [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the world and moved the mountain that is Google, but even a few admitted Windows fans came to&nbsp;the very same conclusion that it was done because the experience, well, it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: salmanshah</title>
		<link>http://blog.tomverhoeff.nl/2013/01/05/breaking-down-the-google-maps-windows-phone-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-53963</link>
		<dc:creator>salmanshah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 22:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can open maps.google.com through User Agent Switch in my LUMIA 800. And it is working fine as Google chrome on PC.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can open maps.google.com through User Agent Switch in my LUMIA 800. And it is working fine as Google chrome on PC.</p>
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		<title>By: Windows Phone users to get their broken Google Maps web experience back &#171; SP1RACY &#8211; All things tech &#38; more</title>
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		<dc:creator>Windows Phone users to get their broken Google Maps web experience back &#171; SP1RACY &#8211; All things tech &#38; more</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 05:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the world and moved the mountain that is Google, but even a few admitted Windows fans came to&#160;the very same conclusion that it was done because the experience, well, it [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://blog.tomverhoeff.nl/2013/01/05/breaking-down-the-google-maps-windows-phone-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-53926</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 04:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is my take:

1. Mobile view for maps is developed and targeted at webkit because the trident engine has &lt;&lt;1% market share (and even that’s from winmo devices). 

2. Mobile view has extremely low priority for development because android and iOS are already covered. It gets very few updates and only receives attention recently because of apple map’s debacle. 

3. During the apple maps debacle, maps got a major update so QA tests were run and windows phone failed or preformed very poorly. They probably only had WP7.5 devices as the WP8 launch/device availability is relatively recent. The results get put into a report and sent to the maps mobile team who decide to redirect WP users if they try to access the mobile maps node.

4. Some time later they update the redirect scripts to point at new/changed nodes and apply updates/bugfixes. One of these changes is a n updated user agent parser/interpreter. The effect of this update is to redirect WP users (correctly) to the mobile nodes.

Now, when a WP user visits maps.google.com they are directed to the mobile node instead of the desktop node. The mobile nodes then redirects the user to the home page because it failed the quality check for the mobile view. The desktop view is never served because the request never passes through to the desktop node.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my take:</p>
<p>1. Mobile view for maps is developed and targeted at webkit because the trident engine has &lt;&lt;1% market share (and even that’s from winmo devices). </p>
<p>2. Mobile view has extremely low priority for development because android and iOS are already covered. It gets very few updates and only receives attention recently because of apple map’s debacle. </p>
<p>3. During the apple maps debacle, maps got a major update so QA tests were run and windows phone failed or preformed very poorly. They probably only had WP7.5 devices as the WP8 launch/device availability is relatively recent. The results get put into a report and sent to the maps mobile team who decide to redirect WP users if they try to access the mobile maps node.</p>
<p>4. Some time later they update the redirect scripts to point at new/changed nodes and apply updates/bugfixes. One of these changes is a n updated user agent parser/interpreter. The effect of this update is to redirect WP users (correctly) to the mobile nodes.</p>
<p>Now, when a WP user visits maps.google.com they are directed to the mobile node instead of the desktop node. The mobile nodes then redirects the user to the home page because it failed the quality check for the mobile view. The desktop view is never served because the request never passes through to the desktop node.</p>
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